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« on: January 09, 2006, 02:22:54 PM » |
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Well a bunch of questions really.
Can Parkour be captured on film? Could somebody look at a video without knowing who it is from and know if it was Parkour, freerunning, L'Art Du Deplacement, Yamakasi, or whatever else. Should videos even be labelled as these since at least for Parkour it's not the moves that matter?
Can Parkour be conveyed though film? Do you think someone could watch a really well done video and understand what Parkour really is, or is it something that has to be done or seen/explained physically?
There is so much controversy over videos being released, where they are analyzed through one set discipline or another, does it matter? Can any video deserve the name Parkour or should they just be a display of skills?
Just a couple thoughts I've been having recently and experiences where I need to explain Parkour to media representatives quickly.
Answer any question you want, or all if you feel like it :-D
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2006, 02:46:46 PM » |
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I do believe that the topic of 'parkour' videos are being taken a bit too literally. Think of videos as parkour fiction. They arent actually parkour because the the goal was to film your skills, the mindset just isnt there. BUT, if the video was good enough, It could get the point across of what it is you are trying to accomplish. Anything can be understood with a good enough video. So ya, someone can watch a really good parkour video (a very good example is the b-13 clip with david belle) and get a good feeling of what parkour is.  |
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2006, 06:05:38 PM » |
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Videos are better used to show your skills, after that for entertainment. Other than that they're just fun to make so people do. Don't worry about what's in a vid, just take it for what it is. |
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2006, 09:45:13 PM » |
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I think its legitmate to make skill showcase videos were you do acrobatics and parkour martial arts break dancing whatever mix um together however you want thats all fine. I think to many people have made to many of those videos so that people stop thinking you can make parkour videos, I dissagree. I think you can film videos that are representive of the approach of parkour and I think that you can be filmed will focusing in the mindset of parkour. I think its harder to do and less imediately spectacular so people don't do it but I appreciate videos that are clearly parkour, like the recent videos by Stannum, or Dim monks 2005 sampler, or the b13 chase scene. I think these show the concept of parkour rather well actually.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2006, 07:07:09 PM » |
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do you have a link to the stannum video? i haven't seen it i don't think.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2006, 07:32:27 PM » |
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I think it's quite possible to make a video that shows the movements and goal of Parkour, but in doing so, you will not actually be practicing Parkour. Unfortunately, to truly capture the appropriate shots and techniques, you would spend enough time setting up and repeating moves that it wouldn't be Parkour at all, but rather Parkour movements used as a tool for good videography  |
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2006, 10:00:23 PM » |
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I think Parkour can be captured on film and someone can understand what Parkour is through film-making because that's where I was first introduced of Le Parkour, through videos of David Belle and then from there, I of course, followed up on studying and learning as much as I possibly can on the concept and overall art form of it.
However, I think it depends on what exactly the video is about, most of the ones outside of David Belle and Yamakasi that I've watched don't really show the concept of Parkour, but more along the lines of entertainment. I just really want to see more filming done on point A to point B, meaning it would be cool to start off the video with a layout map of the area and show where the end mark is. Then from there, the traceur would go through many different obstacles in his/her path in the quickest way possible and you know, have more than one different form. I'm a little too hopeful, but like I said most of the videos I've seen is just running around and doing flips <-- ( >=P which isn't parkour.)
Although I do have to say, some of videos placed out there to show how to do certain movements have helped a lot...
So overall, I hope I make sense... I'm a bit wary of watching videos and for them to truly be called parkour, but I'm up to watching anything labeled as such and even if it isn't considered parkour, I love seeing the way people do different techniques =3~ (Oh and the music that's usually accompanied with Parkour videos = <3)
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2006, 02:25:28 PM » |
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unless you have a bunch of cameras randomly around the areas you practice parkour in and then, after you forget the cameras are there, you go and do parkour then...yes you would have captured parkour on film.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2006, 06:42:07 PM » |
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what if you run from a mugger while being unknowingly video taped by him.
cyborg muggers with modded eyes are all the rage.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2006, 09:36:06 PM » |
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I think that videos are made for entertainment, tutorials, self progression, inspiration, and information.
Obviously everyone loves a good video(entertainment), a video can help more than an article can to teach(tutorials). Sometimes a person may want to show their progression/skill and perhaps get some advice on how they can improve(self-progression). Sometimes i will watch a video that has one run after another to get in the "pk mood"(inspiration), other times i will watch to get to know parkour more in-depth(information).
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