i dont think that would been the complete reason
it could easly be part of it
but
a law like that wouldnt pass just for those reasons
there had to be some thing else (maybe the fact its bad for you)

but then you think of smoking cigs
they are worse and yet its still legal
but tobacco is an amercan crop so i see were your coming from on the racism thing

never done it, never will. my father used to do it, and he said it made him stupid and he couldnt control his body. i see no reason to give up any control of your body just to look like a retard. or to look cool. or even just giving up control. when i roll my ankle, or hurt my leg, or do anything that keeps me from 100%, i feel horrible because i cant do everything i do. you guys can, but ill never f*ck up my body like that

Actually one of the biggest things that is keeping Mary J illegal is lobbymen from major alcohol companies, that keep the legislature from going thru in most states.

It's illegal because we live in a country founded by Puritans.  Remeber something called Prohibition?(well, not ACTUALLY remember, but know of...). It's all propaganda.  It goes back to my point that there ARE countries that have legalized marijuana.  PS. Don't forget that CA has it used medicinally, AND many states offer Marinol in Doctors clinics(it's pills with the psychoactive element, THC, in them).

Here's another funny fact.  Hemp is one the most economically efficient materials.  It is stronger than cotton, grows faster and cuts cleaner.  It can be made into paper, clothes, rope etc etc.....  However, the cotton industry was worrysome of their billion dollar cotton and printing industry, which would be ruinied by hemp, played a major role in helping to get marijuana illegalized in the US.  Hemp would be a great asset to the country; Hemp plants contain no THC, and there are already many countries that produce, utilize, and market hemp...some of which you can see in your local stores, as string, clothes etc....

Why do you play video games?  Watch TV?  Go to the movies?  All of these, in excess, are going to have harmful effects on your body.  But marijuana is a method of leisure, like any other.  It's relaxing and there's no grievous harm done (note I said "grievous").

The legality of something is never a mark of whether it is right or wrong, of whether it is moral or immoral, of whether it is safe or harms people.  If homosexual marriage were outlawed, would it be wrong?  (If you believe it IS wrong... by the fact that it is currently legal, does that make it right?)  I'm sorry, but the argument "It's got to be illegal for a reason" is one of the worst ever.

Be a law-abiding citizen if you want.  If my government does something I don't like, I fight against it.  It's the American way.  It's democracy.  If my government refuses to change, then I leave.  I have the right to.  Marijuana laws are petty and don't really matter in the long run...  But my point is that the law and the government are not what you should be looking up to for ethics or morality.  That's something you have to decide on your own, something that must be untainted by the government.

So while I respect your right to believe as you wish, I don't want to see anyone use "It's illegal" as an argument for why it is wrong.  I simply don't buy it.  I think it's naive to obey laws blindly without considering why it might be legal or illegal.

In any case, people do it for leisure.  So long as you do it responsibly and are not hurting anyone in the process, what's the harm?

kk, Steez.  Point taken.  The mariajuana I used to get in DC came from people's houses.  The marijuana I get in Canada came from either Vancouver (best stuff out there...  It's normally grown in people's backyards) or from... yeah... people's houses.  I tend to make it my business to know where it comes from and it isn't a problem for me since I can normally find a pothead stupid friend of mine who grows it in his closet or... if i'm in Canada... I can just find someone...  LoL.

well that is true by definition of the word M2, but i think what he was getting at was that "wrong" by law/majority is not always wrong for the individual. In fact using the term wrong with an individual is an improper term, i guess with an individual the correct term is good and bad, which are terms that are more subjective to the individual's preferences. So therefore Wrong can be good or bad, based on the individual.

Mark, the government once decided that it was wrong for black kids to go to school with the white kids.  Yes, clearly, law is always a reflection of proper morality.

As for the marijuana, I normally help them tend to the plants themselves.  So yes, I've seen them.  Yes, I've helped them pick the leaves and prepare them.  I only have about three friends who I can it from, so it's pretty easy to keep tabs on them.  Again, I smoke very rarely and in the past three years, it's gone down to once a year on average.  I don't even enjoy the high.  It's the act of smoking that I enjoy.  As such, I'm quite content with a nice cigar if it's available rather than marijuana.  But what I'm arguing for is the fact that there is nothing wrong with it.


The only thing that has to do with the law there says, "an invasion of another person's rights."  I don't see how it invades anyone else's rights.  Sorry, but the definition of "wrong" does not equate to "illegal."  The law is not and has never been my standard for ethical procedure.  My ethics and the law may coincide at times, but I do not look up to the law to decide what's wrong and what's wrong.  To do so would be naive in my eyes...  If you can't decide for yourself what you believe is right and wrong, if you can't defend your moral positions through reason and through logic, if your only argumentation for your ethical belief is "It's illegal," then you're either very lazy or just sheep.

For the most part, I don't believe that anyone believes that the law is the standard for moral behaviour.  The government exists for a reason, yes.  The law exists for a reason.  But to believe that the law is infallible is naive.

I think energy drinks and caffiene has come up before actually.

I don't remember the reason, but i think we came to the conclusion that they are actually bad for you to drink just before or during excersize, and its just better to drink water, or maybe something like gatorade.

Nick your right. I know i wanna go live in Alaska now. Plus i'm a cold weather person.


 This is not true. There are multiple people i know, who sell drugs to help other people out. Although yes they do take some profit, it is less then an average drug dealer, and it's mainly just for time and gas money. Not to mention the many people who grow it to sell for medical reasons. Point is, not everyone sells drugs simply for there own personal gain. Most of the hippy/rasta communities sell it to help each other out, and share the green wealth.