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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2008, 03:10:11 PM » |
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Chris knows his stuff, and he makes a very valid point.
I would say don't just bike solely, but incorporate it with other things.
Shane did get the right idea, though. Less joint damage from less impact.
But yes, watch out for overuse.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2008, 03:19:47 PM » |
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I think the point was you are less likely to develop a joint related injury (sprains, fractures, etc) with biking as opposed to other activities- in other words, the weight of your body is being distributed by the action of pedaling as opposed to slamming into the ground.
Overuse injuries typically occur at the joint -- overuse of the quad can cause inflammation of the patellar tendon -- which manifests as knee pain. If I am not mistaken, this is what competitive biker's may experience....as well as instability in the knee because the flexors of the hip can harshly overpower the extensors pulling the femur forward putting stress on the PCL. Biking is actually a load bearing exercise, just like running...while the impact on the joints is lessened, the bones, tendons and joints are still under significant stress. If you want to stress the muscles without stressing the joints very much, swimming is the way to go since no muscles bear any load. |
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2008, 03:47:08 PM » |
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Should the seat be higher or lower? I think by putitng it higher you can achieve a sort of walking-like action.
Don't put your seat too high or you will screw up your knees. Likewise, if you have your seat too low you will screw up your knees. The general rule is that your seat should be such that your leg will be straight if your heel is over the axle of the pedal with the pedal in the lowest possible position. Of course when you are actually pedaling you should have the balls of your feet over the axle of the pedal. I have biked a lot and I don't think biking itself will cause overuse injury per se, but because it is low impact and like Chris said it doesn't require eccentric contraction it will not build your muscles and joints in such a way to make them stronger for running and jumping. I have personally experienced this recently as I tried to move from cycling to running and quickly ran into knee problems in part due to week hamstrings. |
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2008, 05:59:48 PM » |
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So biking can't help jumping hight/distance?
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2008, 06:27:52 PM » |
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How far or fast you go matters little.
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2008, 06:37:55 PM » |
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So biking can't help jumping hight/distance?
Height, potentially. If you bike hard enough and eat right, and manage your rest adequately, it's very likely to see some muscular growth in the quadriceps and hip flexors. The quads extend the knee, and play a pretty big role in upwards jumping, but when it comes to forward/distance, the hamstrings become MUCH more important, which biking completely ignores. Thus why I most definitely do NOT recommend biking excessively and/or it being the only form of activity you do. |
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2008, 08:49:21 PM » |
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So biking can't help jumping hight/distance?
Height, potentially. If you bike hard enough and eat right, and manage your rest adequately, it's very likely to see some muscular growth in the quadriceps and hip flexors. The quads extend the knee, and play a pretty big role in upwards jumping, but when it comes to forward/distance, the hamstrings become MUCH more important, which biking completely ignores. Thus why I most definitely do NOT recommend biking excessively and/or it being the only form of activity you do. Glutes and hamstrings will make or break you from being a good jumper or not. Quads are a secondary mover in that chain -- always. |
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2008, 03:51:15 AM » |
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Even vertically? Is that because of the hams' hip extending function?
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2008, 04:52:48 AM » |
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I see your point, that is why after I get home from biking my hams' never hurt. What would be a good activity to complement this?
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2008, 05:30:51 AM » |
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Hey, what's up everyone?
So, my plan for training endurance is to train my Parkouring for a certain amount of time without stopping. I'm going to start of by doing it for five minutes, resting, and then another five minutes, and build from there. But, besides jogging, if you have any tips on training for endurance and stamina please lay them out.
Thank you very much!
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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2008, 08:29:38 AM » |
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How good should I be at LSD before I start doing HIIT? Like, 3 miles or so at a 9 minute pace? (which I can't do, by the way.) I really don't want to hurt myself with the sprints and stuff, I'm not really conditioned for it right now.
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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2008, 08:41:00 AM » |
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You should be doing HIIT before you do LSD.
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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2008, 08:54:33 AM » |
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You should be doing HIIT before you do LSD.
He might want to do at least a little LSD before doing HITT if he is in really bad shape. For example if he was planning on doing a HITT workout with 1/2 mile warmup, 4 x 400 meters, and 1/2 mile cooldown, (a total of 2 miles of running) he should be able to at least jog 2 miles, otherwise jumping straight into such a workout would be a huge rampup in both intensity and volume at the same time which is just asking for injury. That is just my opinion based on unfortunate experience. Other than that, I agree there is no need to be doing really long runs before jumping into HITT. |
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« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2008, 09:48:42 AM » |
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You should be doing HIIT before you do LSD.
He might want to do at least a little LSD before doing HITT if he is in really bad shape. For example if he was planning on doing a HITT workout with 1/2 mile warmup, 4 x 400 meters, and 1/2 mile cooldown, (a total of 2 miles of running) he should be able to at least jog 2 miles, otherwise jumping straight into such a workout would be a huge rampup in both intensity and volume at the same time which is just asking for injury. That is just my opinion based on unfortunate experience. Other than that, I agree there is no need to be doing really long runs before jumping into HITT. You should always warmup before HIIT by doing various sprinting drills and dynamic stretching. I don't see the need to run 1/2 mile before and after but hey if that works for you then go for it. Don't expect me to though. |
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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2008, 09:56:18 AM » |
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He might want to do at least a little LSD before doing HITT if he is in really bad shape. I think certain acronyms are already forever taken  Maybe we could call it like Slow Long Distance (SDL), or at least check and make sure it doesn't make for hilarious interpretations when used in a sentence   |
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