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« on: December 03, 2006, 06:00:59 PM » |
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Hey guys, I was doing some pk at my house today on this two tier deck we have. My dad has been doing some work on the deck so there was a ladder propped up against the deck (firmly). I was konging over the top deck's banister and trying to precision on to the top of the ladder. I found it very hard to say the least due to the fact that i really couldnt see the ladder until i was nearly done with the vault.
This brings me to my question. When doing pk in a new area it would be very important to know what was on the other side of what you are vaulting. however that is not always going to happen. So what do you think is the best vault to use in a case where you may need to make a quick adjustment when you see what actually is on the other side and what is the best vault for giving you a view of the other side with the most time to react?
Thanks for your thoughts,
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Nicolas Finn
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2006, 06:35:17 PM » |
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yeah guys.. that is a great question.. I would assume that it would have to be something like a money (or one where you can see as you get to whatever you're vaulting, and one where you still have a good chance of changing your distance)
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2006, 06:38:40 PM » |
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Well if you don't know what's on the other end I'd suggest just monkeying up and landing on top of the surface. Then you could just precision from there.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2006, 07:19:04 PM » |
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What EK2 said most likely. But in a situation where this wouldn't work. Maybe just a plain old two hander. Those are fairly easy to adujust mid-vault.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2006, 07:23:42 PM » |
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hmm i think a monkey would work really well, you could even stop and turn around and not do the jump in the middle of a monkey if you wanted to.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2006, 07:52:27 PM » |
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you can do speed with less force and a stronger grip, and halfway over you can turn it into a turn vault if you can get practice that enough
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2006, 08:00:56 PM » |
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I would choose a two-handed vault, one of the most basic movements, because you can easily pull short and turn it into a turn-vault, or even grab with one hand to stop your descent if you find a hazard on the other side of the obstacle. I touch on this a bit in the article I wrote on the turn vault for the Crossfit Journal a few months ago.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2006, 08:07:46 PM » |
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Yeah I would definately go for a two hand vault or a lazy vault, just because personally those are the two vaults I feel I have the most control over. It could also probably depend on what type of wall you are hopping over, for instance is it brick, does it have a rail along the top, etc.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2006, 01:51:14 PM » |
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i would say the monkey or kong, thats happend to me lots were i kong and bam somethings in my way and i had to make an areial adjustment works just fine for me i do say
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2006, 02:35:06 AM » |
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This has happened to me a couple of times, mostly when coming out of a kong vault. I usually turn into a very sloppy turn vault. But, this goes to show you. ALWAYS CHECK YOUR AREA!
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2006, 09:43:54 AM » |
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This has happened to me a couple of times, mostly when coming out of a kong vault. I usually turn into a very sloppy turn vault. But, this goes to show you. ALWAYS CHECK YOUR AREA!
That's all good and well for training, but in a real-life chase situation, that's going to be impossible. The best idea is... if you can't see the other side and it's possible, then turn vault. Even if it's slower. No sense in running away from a pursuer with a broken leg, eh? If you can't turn vault, then do a side vault or a two-handed because you have much more control and can adjust yourself mid-air. |
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2006, 09:38:21 PM » |
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This happens a lot to me and if it calls for it I just use a lazy because if you can't make it or mess up you could always swing around and grab on. Works for me quite frequently.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2006, 10:34:59 AM » |
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I agree with gear here, if you want the ability to control every stage of the vault. However something else I would recomend working on is control in the air. Once you've already released yourself from the ground or any anchor, you are limited in your possibilities, but that doesn't mean you have to turn into a rag doll. experiment with things like leaning and balancing in the air, and reaching or tucking your legs to work your precisions into a truly "precise" movement.
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2006, 02:03:56 PM » |
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definatly lazy vault because you could easily turn it into a turn-vault half way through if there's broken glass or a 5006050 foot drop on the other end...but of course if there was a 5006050 foot drop you could just roll and be okay.  |
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2006, 06:20:35 PM » |
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I agree with Pistol, gear, and ER lmao. Fallow everything we said and it should help as much as it's possible.
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