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« on: October 22, 2006, 06:15:09 PM » |
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ok so the other day, i went out to train, (something i havent dont in over a month... been to bsy with work and school, so i was extremly excited wehn i had time to train) anyway, i say some friends, and started to talk to pat about pk, and such... andy patty asked me what a cat was.. so i went to show her, and on the way to the locaiton (there was a specific run i wanted to show her) i had to walk past a wall... and on a whim, just because i felt like doinga wall run without even thinking i just started to wall run... and this is the best wall run i have ever managed.. my second foot was just as powerful as my first and it was at my shoulders heigh on the wall... in the end i was over my height in the air... naturaly i laned in a roll.. (it was freaking huge).... i know this is a lot... but i was just wondering if thinking has any bearing on pk abiliyt... and if anyone else has experianced this suden increase in skill by just not thinking aobut what they were doing... (perhaps instead of trying to train, i hsould just .... train)....
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CyanideSoda
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2006, 06:17:22 PM » |
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I make an attempt not to think to much. I prefer to drill things until everything is so natural i can do it without thinking. I have a tendecy to overthink, and therefore mess up. I prefer to train until i just don't think. So that was slighly redundant, but whatever.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2006, 06:22:45 PM » |
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Yea I like to train into instinct too. as an example, about a week ago I did a high turn vault to drop that has always scared me (it's about a 10 foot drop), landed in a good roll and kept running. then I tripped doing an easy 2 1/2 foot speed vault because I thought too much about it
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2006, 08:04:02 PM » |
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The whole "clear your mind" thing has some meaning.
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Valigon
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2006, 08:07:41 PM » |
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hmm... maybe i need to train clearing my mind, so that i can actualy clear my mind.. because when im training something (like wall runs) i stand in front of the wall.. and try to clear my mind.. then ill just go.. and i usualy end up failing... but this last time it was like.... instinct.. i just did it... there was no clearing, no thinking,... no try.. only do.... kinda like yoda... "there is no try, only do"
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2006, 08:30:50 PM » |
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Not so much thoughtless as Mindful. I always loved the buddhist idea of mindfulness in all things being the epitome of true meditative thought. Anybody can sit in a quiet room and be mindful, but it takes a master to be mindful in movement amongst others. That's what my goal is when I train.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2006, 09:56:04 PM » |
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Which is really complementary to parkour. You need to be mindful of your surroundings, and especially of what is PAST your surroundings. (I.E. rocks, pointy things, bigger drops than you thought it was.)
So when you move through a technique, don't think about it, but always be mindful as much as you can.
I like that. Good post, gear.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2006, 05:45:52 AM » |
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Not so much thoughtless as Mindful. I always loved the buddhist idea of mindfulness in all things being the epitome of true meditative thought. Anybody can sit in a quiet room and be mindful, but it takes a master to be mindful in movement amongst others. That's what my goal is when I train.
Indeed. There are, strangely, many Buddhist parallels with Parkour. Or at the very least, particular Buddhist elements and mentalities that serve useful. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2006, 01:52:29 PM » |
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You all are missing the obvious element, valigon was obviously trying to showoff for patty. LOL
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2006, 03:26:43 PM » |
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no mind, no fear, no boundries my friend lol
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2006, 07:48:17 PM » |
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when im doing something scary that ive not practiced alot, i dont think about it becuase if i do then i freak myself out, overthink, and fall on my face. if i dont think, then i wont freak myself out, and i wont fall on my face. mindful is a very good way to put it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2006, 01:20:30 PM » |
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through examination of myself i have come to this conclusion: If you are resting and not thinking to hard about what your doing, you must rely on instinct as well as practiced technique that has become habitual. If you have worked on technique for a while you can later rely on that technique. i am a ballet dancer as well as a traceur. in ballet we work constantly on the technique of everything because that is what makes ballet, the technique. i find that when i am focusing to hard on getting something right or making it look good I will try to hard to change things to make it work and it will end up being very hard. I've been in ballet for a few years now so i have got at least a basic grasp of the technique. And because of this, i find that when I am completley relaxed and not concentrating on the movement itself I can perform it MUCH easier. I just worry about moving and my body does what is requred as far as technique goes because I have worked on the technique of it so dilligently. The same applies for parkour. If you constantly work on the basics and really drill techniques, you can then just rely on technique and only think about moving. You can just allow your body to do what you want because you have already practiced the technique. This might be what is happeneing.
If you really worked on technique and trained hard in parkour a month ago, then perhaps after a month off you have not lost that technique.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2006, 07:20:45 PM » |
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If you really worked on technique and trained hard in parkour a month ago, then perhaps after a month off you have not lost that technique.
At some point movement becomes more than just technique, it becomes natural. If you internalize it, your body may "forget" but your mind will always have it on call. |
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I will never view my fellow traceurs as a springboard.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2006, 07:42:06 PM » |
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i personally like the fight club qoute "it's only when we've lost everything that we're free to do anything" i think of it if i start psyking myself out, you know clear my mind of fear and such
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2006, 12:55:09 AM » |
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(I've woken up early, spare me, I lucid dream. =P)
Yah, I had/have that same problem with rolls.
I want it in my "physical memory" so it becomes a natural instinct, but it won't be there for a while...
I guess that's why 'flow' is so important, as the movements we make must be fluid, so do our thoughts.
If your thoughts and movements aren't synchronized, then the flow is messed up; sort of like a Yin/Yang thing.
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Awareness is nice. Freedom is nice. I have both, do you?
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