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Dear guys, After reading about the accounts on the Mid-Atlantic Jam on Saturday, the 14th (broken ankles and banged knees), I thought it be important to make this post: I relieze that people that practice parkour practice in different groups. Sometimes, you have young and old...new and experienced tracuers. Regardless of the age and experience of the group of practicioners, it is important to know what to do in an emergency situation. Please take the time to read some basic points here, and click the links for any more information: Disclaimer: I am not a accreditted, recognized, liscenced, practicing, nor registered doctor. None of the infomation here is to be taken as actual medical advice or council. This is simple basic facts obtained from http://www.mayoclinic.com. Obvsiously, in each situation, use your judgement: If it is a serious injury, do not be afraid to call 911 or your local medical and emergency facility. Be sure to take measures after these initial tips: Continues to RICE your wounds, and seek medical attention if necissary. This information should not be cited, copied, nor reproduced. Bruise*Elevate the bruised area *Ice the area, being careful not to freeze the area. Cuts*Stop the bleeding. Apply light pressure if it does not stop bleeding on its own. *Clean the wound with water *Apply an antibiotic *Wrap with gauze or bandaid. *Use common sense with this one...this is obviously for small cuts...if it's a deep cut, seek medical attention and stitches. Sprain*Do not continue to work on any sprined limb. The swelling and pain may not be initial sprain, so do not be fooled. *Follow R.I.C.E: -Rest -Ice -Compression -Elevation Fractures*Stop any bleeding *Do not try to set the bone yourself *Apply ice to the fractured area *Check for shock in the victim. Stay safe kids, and practice hard... JOMR ps. please feel free to add to anything here for people who actually know what they're talking about
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2006, 02:11:36 AM » |
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I'm trained as a combat medic, so I do have some information that could be useful.
Concussions:
This would be a head injury, obviously, but a special kind. If one falls and hits their head and is unable to get up, seems confused or dazed, or of course unconsious, a concussion may have occured.
For a Grade I Concussion, when the victim is simply confused or dazed, keep them STILL, preferably lying down FACE UP OR TO THE SIDE. This is to prevent the blood escaping the brain from leaving to quickly, causing more damage. Should the victim begin coughing, sit them up.
A Grade II Concussion includes anterograde amnesia, in which one cannot remember anything that has happened a few seconds after the injury occurs It literally reduces their state of mind to the attention span of a goldfish, 5 seconds. Repeat the same process as above, but should conciousness be lost call for an ambulance, obviously.
A Grade III Concussion includes anterograde and retrograde amnesia, in which the victim cannot remember what happened before or after the injury. This calls for an ambulance post-haste, unless you want this amnesia to be permenent.
IF THE VICTIM GOES UNCONCIOUS, CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE. Do NOT hope that the victim wakes up soon and goes on their merry way. Without proper treatment, they could die in their "sleep." While waiting, keep the victim face up, head elevated.
And now that I think about it, this plus the other things already posted just about covers it...unless someone is hit with an explosive, or is shot. In that case, you probably don't have the proper equipment to help your friend, and you're probably in the wrong area for Parkour anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2006, 03:07:21 AM » |
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Any advice on exertion-related problems? I'm particularly thinking of heat stroke, but obviously you can imagine other things.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2006, 06:14:14 AM » |
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Nice post gene. We can sticky this... somewhere 
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2006, 11:13:57 AM » |
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Oh yes, Hyperthermia, aka Heat Stroke. This is another serious issue. As a side note, humidity and the presence of direct sunlight may cause the heat index to be 10 °C hotter than the temperature indicated by a thermometer. (Also, according to my book, Hyperthermia is caused artifically to help treat cancer. How awkward.)
A core (Internal) body temperature of 106 °F causes "Brain Death" after about 10 minutes. Brain Death is complete and irreversable damage of the brain. However, in EXTREME conditions, the body will hit this temperature in about 10 minutes after the first sign of Hyperthermia, in which time the victim should already be in treatment.
Heat Exserion is the first step, in which the victim cannot sweat, due to the lack of water in their body. After this, Hyperthermia sets in.
Prevention:
-WATER, obviously. However, if one brings very cold water, DO NOT CHUG IT DOWN. If the body is very warm and all of the sudden very cool liquid enters, it can cause shock, and sometimes low-level HYPOthermia. Coffee, tea, ESPECIALLY SODA, AND ALCOHOL will only make the victim dehydrate faster.
-Loose fitting, light clothing. A Wide brimmed hat to keep sunlight off the head and neck, and vented top to allow the top of the head to ventilate.
First Aid:
-Hyperthermia is a sure sign that you need to call for an Ambulance. Remember, it only takes 5 minutes for Brain Death to occur.
-Remove unneeded clothing, down to the victims underwear, to allow passive cooling.
-Shade is your friend, and so is water. If complete submersion is unavailible, pouring water over the victims head and neck and THEN their whole body will suffice.
Since I've covered HYPERthermia, i'll do the same for HYPOthermia, which is when Core temperature is too low to allow normal metabolism. This will come in handy, considering we ARE entering Winter.
Once Core Temp. lowers about 4°C, the body becomes pale and blue (obviously not a sign to us "darker skinned" people) as blood returns from less needed parts to the organs, such as heart and brain.
At 90°C and below, the body cannot metabolize and "Clinical Death" begins. This is when major organs, such as the heart, fail. Brain Death can still occur, but due to decreased cellular activity it takes longer.
Prevention:
-Heat is lost through the neck and head faster than any other part of the body. In otherwords, beanies and SCARFS ESPECIALLY are your friends.
-Since Parkour is great exercise, it's best to wear wool or synthetic materials made to dry quickly. Sweat drenched clothing is not a good thing.
First Aid:
-DO NOT: ~Rub or Massage ~Give alcohol ~Give Food or Drink, including warm drinks ~Treat Frostbite ~Allow the victim to stand or sit up
Doing so will pull blood from major organs, keeping them from warming up, and exasterbating the problem.
-DO: ~Call for an Ambulance (See a pattern?) ~Shelter the victim ~If possible, put the patient in a bath with medium-temperature water, with the clothes on, but do not do this with elders. (For you 70 year old Tracuers out there?) ~Place insulated (wrapped in a sock or something) hot water bottles between legs and in armpits. ~Be prepared to induce CPR (BY A TRAINED PROFESSIONAL IF POSSIBLE) ~Remove wet clothing IF AND ONLY IF dry clothing is availible.
Moving the victim can cause a heart attack. Period. So what do you think we shouldn't do? Good job.
Also, if blankets or a large coat is availible, wrap the victim in this, and preferably have someone embrace them, allowing their body heat to warm the victim slowly. (If you've seen "Day After Tommorow," you may recall this technique.)
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2006, 05:12:01 PM » |
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That is amazing man. Thank you very much.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2006, 07:17:23 PM » |
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wow really cool and useful. Concussions seem to be the number one injury with m and my buddies. :/ so shabam you guys have helped me out a tad. Expecially now that I'm almost healed and ready to injure myself once again. Gracias
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2006, 07:33:34 PM » |
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well i know its extreme, but i know(personally) some people out there will train way past their endurance level.
is there any advice for complete exaustion(i've herd that the heart can stop in extreme cases from a form of muscle failure after passing out).
i mean like can't move and barely breathe exaustion, is it better to try to stand or lie down? better to chug some water or pour i all over your head?
and so on etc.....
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2006, 07:48:25 PM » |
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Thats basically like dehydration and in which case you must lie down and drink the water you considered pouring over the head. ok I have been dehydrated a few times actually. To stubbern to go inside and break. 
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Parkour can make you or break you, each of which I have experienced. ~Feel the Flow~ "Don't think with your balls, think with your brain." -Houston 
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2006, 10:29:08 PM » |
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Indeed, that is true. Exhaustion is also caused by lack of sleep the night before. I'd like to add that the longest record of one staying awake was four days during a rocking chair contest. Yes...a rocking chair contest. This person showed symptoms of one in a nearly brain dead state, and had he stayed up any longer, he would have died. Think about that the next time you decide to pull an all nighter before a Jam.
Heh...my first full day here and i've been Applauded twice. Lovely.
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2006, 05:21:43 AM » |
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I'd like to add that the longest record of one staying awake was four days... Not to nit-pick, but actually it was 11 days. Bless Ask Yahoo, huh? I cannot even imagine that amt of time in sleep-deprivation, though... I start hallucinating after 1 all-nighter.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2006, 05:37:10 AM » |
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wow thats crazy. I stay awake all night all the time, time to stop huh. eeeee
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Parkour can make you or break you, each of which I have experienced. ~Feel the Flow~ "Don't think with your balls, think with your brain." -Houston 
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2006, 05:51:41 AM » |
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weird thing is, no matter how long you stay away you still only need 8-10 hours of good sleep to be back to normal
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2006, 06:13:24 AM » |
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I'd like to add that the longest record of one staying awake was four days... Not to nit-pick, but actually it was 11 days. Bless Ask Yahoo, huh? I cannot even imagine that amt of time in sleep-deprivation, though... I start hallucinating after 1 all-nighter. Hmm, you're actually right. Sorry, I was making that statement from old news. I found this article about the 11 day record, but it was broken yet AGAIN in 1998. 528 hours...22 days. Wow. http://www.villagevoice.com/news/9849,carr,1846,4.htmlIn any case, you get the point I was trying to make, no?
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2006, 07:14:08 AM » |
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It's easy to get applauded when copying and pasting someone elses articles. It's called Plagiarism.  (not you JumpOffMyRoof?, you gave credit) And guys, if you have any questions about a subject, dont wait to ask someone so they can just look it up on the internet and repost it here. There are these wonderful things called search engines. Or if it's health related go to webmd.com or the various other online resourses out there.
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