inpherno
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« on: September 01, 2008, 06:52:25 AM » |
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Does anybody know if taking glucosamine supplements for joint lubrication will affect my body's ability to naturally hydrate & lubricate my knees, hips etc. later in life? I find that jumping & landing are causing pain in my knees. It also hurts my hip & knees to run downhill on concrete with a backpack. Any advice?
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Chris Salvato
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2008, 07:45:28 AM » |
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how high are these jumps and landings that are giving you pain?
Pain the the decent of a climb indicates musculature failure (or poor running form) where your heals are striking violently causing resonating "shock waves" to travel up to your joints.
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inpherno
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2008, 08:19:22 AM » |
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the jumps and landings are pretty basic, about waist height: 3-4 feet
and you're about 100% right on the shockwave thing. I'm usually running to catch a bus.
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Steve Low
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2008, 03:12:15 PM » |
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Read Chad's running technique post (it's a sticky in this forum).
Stop taking drops.
Work your strength and conditioning for your legs and stay ground level.
If you still need something you can try glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate (and there's another one now that I'm forgetting..) but it works for some people and doesn't work for others. So be careful about your money.
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Jeff Whalley
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 08:15:25 AM » |
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glucosamine is one of those things that has not been proven by the FDA. It is believed to assist in helping your body to maintain healthy joints, but again, this maybe a placebo. In the end is personal preference weather you feel it is worth the investment.
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Chris Salvato
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 05:00:26 PM » |
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yes and no...
studies have shown that glucosamine does help with chronic osteoarthritis (overuse arthritis) in horses and other animals...
the results are not causal, however, in any of these studies. Though this may be enough to convince some people <shrug>
i am a bit wary about its use, though i do take it every day.
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Derik DaSilva
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 11:06:48 PM » |
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Just to add a side note, inpherno is actually my brother-in-law, and we've talked a bit about general fitness. Turns out he used to do extensive training with lunges + weights and he told me he would constantly push his knee out over his toes. I told him that that was probably what messed up his knees in the first place. I've been working with him on general strength conditioning and stretching, but I'm afraid it might not be enough. Any other suggestions besides the glucosamine or chondroitin sulfate? P.S. The source for my concern is lack of training buddies. I'd hate to lose one, especially considering he's my brother-in-law!  |
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Chris Salvato
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2008, 05:06:09 AM » |
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Turns out he used to do extensive training with lunges + weights and he told me he would constantly push his knee out over his toes.
That is proper form so long as you are driving from your heels. How would that have messed his knee? |
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Derik DaSilva
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008, 12:03:18 PM » |
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That is proper form so long as you are driving from your heels.
How would that have messed his knee?
Your not supposed to go past a 90 degree angle when doing lunges because it causes unnecessary strain on the knee. This is what I've been told. Let me do some digging and get back to ya... |
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Chris Salvato
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 12:31:43 PM » |
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False.
Post your source.
So long as your knee tracks over your toes then you can go to full flexion. Same with the squat.
This 90 degree stuff is pure crap.
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 01:37:04 PM » |
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Are there any fitness certs that still teach that? I don't know why it persists. I mean, I know highs chool coaches are generally one problem, since you don't need a fitness cert to coach at an HS (though you SHOULD), but it's so widespread that I've no clue how it propagates.
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Chris Salvato
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2008, 04:46:59 PM » |
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I'm not sure animus...but there are several certs that teach bogus shit still..
i dunno which certs still say this 90 degree garbage, but I do know the ACE certs preach high carb diets for athletes - garbage.
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2008, 07:32:34 PM » |
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My cert had several instances like that. Just need to do the research outside of what their "bible book" tells you and stay on top of all the information and never take what one person says as sole authority.
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Derik DaSilva
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2008, 09:37:04 PM » |
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I will just stand corrected and let the conversation about glucosamine continue on.
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2008, 06:34:26 AM » |
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Im one of those guys that blew out a knee in high school and was supposed to have surgery to repair it but didnt due to $. so I asked a bunch of guys over 50 about glucosamine when I worked with em. They all said the same thing. It works, but Its not a miracle drug. It wont repair your knee to new, but it will make the bends a little easier.
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