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« on: August 19, 2008, 11:45:11 AM »

okay all you hear is that stretching takes time and patients... bla bla im impatient i like to see results.

well alot of people have really stiff shoulders, i mean how often do you really stretch out your shoulder joints. do you even know how? IL TELL YOU HOW. Smiley

take a bar. a strong light bar doesn't matter how thick or whatever.

1.put your hands wide apart and keep your arms STRAIGHT
2.while keeping your arms straight.. move the bar out infront of you, and then up and over your head
3. now this is where the dislocate part comes in... SLOWLY bring the bar behind your back WITHOUT bending your arms

the better shoulder flexibility you have the closer you will be able to put your hands together on the bar.

do it slow. and controlled. no JERKING or anything like that.


i've been doing this excercise for a month. and decreased the distance between my hands by over a foot and a half.

the increase in shoulder ROM allows me to land standing backflip 360's easily'
when before i made my bar, they were struggled and often bailed.

i suggest you get a marker and mark your distance every day, and push yourself a little beyond the day before

also the #1 problem with most people BHS is shoulder flexibility. not back flexibility.

get to it !



 
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2008, 11:49:14 AM »

A lot of people don't even have the muscular ability to move their shoulders back that far, because it isn't in their range of motion.  They need to stretch by force to get the flexibiilty first, then they'll gain the ability to move into it naturally.

And you don't need to dislocate your shoulders to have them be more flexible.  And... is a backflip 360 a backfull?
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2008, 11:51:45 AM »

a standing full yes, and people of all flexibilities can do this, you just start with super wide grip. there is no actual dislocation, thats just what the move is called.. im searching for a GIF exampler or something.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2008, 11:52:50 AM »

here we goo.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xA7sot_LE
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2008, 12:11:52 PM »

a standing full yes, and people of all flexibilities can do this, you just start with super wide grip. there is no actual dislocation, thats just what the move is called.. im searching for a GIF exampler or something.

I know that I for one cannot get a bar past my head with a wide-grip (or even narrow grip) unless I press it against a vertical pole to force it back.  not everyone's shoulder flexibility is as poor as mine, of course, but a lot of men do NOT have very good shoulder flexibility.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2008, 12:29:02 PM »

narrow grip makes it alot harder. just the fact you said that leads me to believe your mis understanding the excercise
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2008, 01:04:05 PM »

narrow grip makes it alot harder. just the fact you said that leads me to believe your mis understanding the excercise

I was just mentioning.  How can I misunderstand when you showed a video?  I'm just telling you that most people cannot do that.  At BEST, just slightly behind their head.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2008, 01:19:32 PM »

have you ever tryed?
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2008, 01:24:06 PM »

Dislocates are not the same as dislocating your shoulder. I'm not sure where the name of the exercise comes from, but I thought the same thing the first time I read about them.

It's basically just another way to stretch the shoulders, and it increases range of motion over time.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2008, 01:27:41 PM »

have you ever tryed?

yes, they are one of the best shoulder stretches out there.  I do it rather often..  BUT I cannot naturally do it.  I either need someone to pull the bar for me, or push it against a pole to be able to achieve anything CLOSE to a full rotation.

Why do you assume I don't know what I'm talking about, or am misunderstanding a very simple concept?  My only point is that the normal range of motion for a person doesn't include this exercise.  It needs to be worked up to.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2008, 01:30:14 PM »

how can that possibly be, you MUST be doing something wrong, or your making your grip to narrow. when your arms are at full armspan the entire move only requires your hands to make a little tiny circle. as your grip narrows the circle becomes bigger and bigger.


Edit: this move is used to rehabilitate people who have sustained shoulder injuries. obviously there range of motion is going to be rediculously limited from an injury, and they still manage just fine. i am in no way saying your unintelligent i read your post about chimp armies and whatnot. your obviously a smart kid, but on this one issue i think your a little mis guided.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2008, 01:46:07 PM »

how can that possibly be, you MUST be doing something wrong, or your making your grip to narrow. when your arms are at full armspan the entire move only requires your hands to make a little tiny circle. as your grip narrows the circle becomes bigger and bigger.


Edit: this move is used to rehabilitate people who have sustained shoulder injuries. obviously there range of motion is going to be rediculously limited from an injury, and they still manage just fine. i am in no way saying your unintelligent i read your post about chimp armies and whatnot. your obviously a smart kid, but on this one issue i think your a little mis guided.

Holding a bar at your widest possible stance and rotating it is different from doing an arm circle.  Your wrist always needs to be pointed forward, which means you ultimately need to tense muscles to be able to get it around your head.  Not to mention my shoulder blades crash into each other if I'm trying to hold onto something in front of me with my wrists forward.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2008, 01:53:21 PM »

im talking bout doing exactly what the guy in the video is doing, except with your arms as far apart as they can go. if you cant do that move, then something is reeeeally broken inside your body
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2008, 01:55:11 PM »

im talking bout doing exactly what the guy in the video is doing, except with your arms as far apart as they can go. if you cant do that move, then something is reeeeally broken inside your body

Right.. see how his wrists are forward until he's in-line with his shoulder blades?  That's pretty much impossible for me.  I can't get my arms passed my ears.

I can guarantee that at LEAST 60% of men, at least, are incapable of getting more than a few degrees past their ears.

And for the record, I can't even do that NOT holding onto a bar, where my wrists are free to do whatever the hell they want.
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2008, 02:16:31 PM »

this is going nowhere fast, i guess il have to post a video of exactly what i'm talking about because you don't seem to get how easy this stretch is when done correctly. it doesn't take any sort of contortion or any sort of flexibility. if you can put your arms out to each side of you, then you can do this stretch!
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