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« on: August 03, 2008, 09:24:17 AM »

ive heard that you need some good strength in your shoulders before doing arm jumps.
can anyone give me a few exercises to help me on this??
bear in mind im 13 =]
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2008, 10:03:57 AM »

please define or provide video of an arm jump...

do you mean like a Handstand jump?
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2008, 10:15:55 AM »

please define or provide video of an arm jump...

do you mean like a Handstand jump?

saut de bras translated means arm jump.  also known as a cat leap.
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2008, 10:59:35 AM »

thought so after looking at some vids..

what part of the arm jump bothers you the most?  anything from working static hangs, pullups to front level and back lever work will strengthen you up for this movement.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2008, 07:17:37 PM »

what chris said.

neil, i think you may be confusing ideas as far as arm jumps go; the main muscles that will absorb your momentum in an arm jump are the pulling muscles: arms, back, posterior shoulders (to be vague). Where the shoulders really come in is when you do an arm jump that is too big, and you aren't able to properly lower yourself through the catch. That's when you kind of wrench your shoulders, and trauma can be built up from doing this too much. So really the solution isn't stronger shoulders, though strengthening your pulling muscles will protect your shoulders.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2008, 09:37:27 PM »

Work on muscle ups and pullups.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2008, 08:11:18 AM »

Correct me if im wrong (as i know you guys will anyway  Grin  )

For the cat leap, or arm-jump, the legs should be the first to absorb impact. You land on the wall with your legs first, and then absorb the rest of the impact with your arms. If your approach to the wall isn't correct in the first place, then maybe the remedy is to correct the movement. Then if other problems persist, we tackle them from there.

Also, i'd like to know if your problem is a.) performing the cat leap from a lower level surface jumping up to a wall or b.) hanging from one wall  and then leaping onto another wall
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2008, 08:18:57 AM »

Correct me if im wrong (as i know you guys will anyway  Grin  )

For the cat leap, or arm-jump, the legs should be the first to absorb impact. You land on the wall with your legs first, and then absorb the rest of the impact with your arms. If your approach to the wall isn't correct in the first place, then maybe the remedy is to correct the movement. Then if other problems persist, we tackle them from there.

Also, i'd like to know if your problem is a.) performing the cat leap from a lower level surface jumping up to a wall or b.) hanging from one wall  and then leaping onto another wall

That's always been alittle misleading.  Your hands can touch-down first to guide your body, but your legs should be the first limbs to bear any weight.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2008, 08:34:31 AM »

Correct me if im wrong (as i know you guys will anyway  Grin  )

For the cat leap, or arm-jump, the legs should be the first to absorb impact. You land on the wall with your legs first, and then absorb the rest of the impact with your arms. If your approach to the wall isn't correct in the first place, then maybe the remedy is to correct the movement. Then if other problems persist, we tackle them from there.

Also, i'd like to know if your problem is a.) performing the cat leap from a lower level surface jumping up to a wall or b.) hanging from one wall  and then leaping onto another wall

This depends....

If you ever did a cat leap out of desperation you know damn well that your body can slam against the wall while your arms take all of the load.

Also, sometimes the surface is slick, and your legs slide down, making their load bearing capabilities less.

If you are doing PK and can't support yourself in a static hang or do at LEAST 5 pullups, you need to work on your strength before training seriously.
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2008, 10:01:24 AM »

Do you want to know how to absorb the impact best or how to climb up from one?

Some shoulder exercises I know of are: doing circles with your arms; almost like your trying to fly, wings with dumbells, and som good ol' fashioned rock climbing, at least that's where I strengthen my shoulders.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2008, 08:52:35 PM »

Do you want to know how to absorb the impact best or how to climb up from one?

Some shoulder exercises I know of are: doing circles with your arms; almost like your trying to fly, wings with dumbells, and som good ol' fashioned rock climbing, at least that's where I strengthen my shoulders.

Arm circles.. for warmup maybe. Wings with DBs are ehh. Not a very useful exercise.

Rockclimbing/pullups + dips or just muscle ups in general should be a traceur's staple exercises for obvious reasons..
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