Once again, i feel that you are ignoring what I am saying...
But i will still provide some cordial rebuttals...
Okay, I'll elaborate on your orignial post, then... I'm pretty new to the parkour scene, and I've become almost obssessed, and I started training after cat fountain was all fenced off and undergoing repairs, which means I never knew it before what it is now. My training is primarily summer based, which means, without any prior training of cat fountain, I'm going to have to test my might against water. OR, I could not hit cat fountain during the summer in order to avoid water, in which case I'll either have to deal with potential for snow or it's going to be balls cold outside and therefore my training there will be shorter than usual. (Not gonna lie, I can't last long outside in the cold. My hands would freeze up like no other.)
Primarily summer based training? Why are you going to be hibernating in the winter?
I am not sure that your point is so compelling here.
Because you want to only train in the summer, you are going to sacrifice one of the best spots in the country while its dry?
Plus why on earth would you be only training in 1 season out of the year? If you only want to train 3 months out of the year, then it seems like you aren't taking the sport so seriously (no offense intended at all) and missing out on just 1 more spot isn't going to make or break out.
I see you post around on the boards and you seem to be very enthusiastic for the sport - do you really think you are going to stop training just because it gets a bit frigid?
If you train for 12 months out of the year, you will get Cat fountain both dry and wet that provides two separate training scenes....
i dunno, I am not too compelled by your point here...no offense intended again.
Also,
What I mean is that you should look at it like this:
implies that how beginners look at it and how 'veterans' look at it should be the same, even though we have different points of view. Some people see a precision jump in the same place someone will see a cat grab, just because they can't make that distance yet.
I disagree. As two separate people we will have our own viewpoints. The point of constructive discussion is to alter or compromise those views as more compelling points about each side are brought to light.
I was trying to give you perspective that you might not have considered before. Perspective that should have been interesting to consider whether you were a beginner or veteran.
Don't think I am assuming that you and I need to have the same views just because I am trying to shed some light on another perspective that you likely didn't consider.
In the summer, it is filled with water that is pouring over the sides. Cat-to-Cat and precisions are going to require more effort, control and fear management. Its going to be an intense training spot.
Although I'm all for 'intense training spots', the fact that it will require more effort, control, and fear management leaves us beginners in the dark, because we're still working on effort, control, and fear management of less difficult training. Again this goes back to some of us never knowing Cat Fountain pre-construction.
You TOTALLY ignored the last part of my post. It seems like you stopped reading as you got to this point. We are talking about 3 months out of the year where more advanced people can have an even more intense training spot. For the other NINE MONTHS it will be exactly as we have come to know and love it.
In conclusion, it's very obvious Cat Fountain will never be the way it was. I can't just go to the construction guys and say, "Hey, would you mind destroying everything you've done so far just so I can see what it was like before?" Very unrealistic. My point is to make sure you think of the people who are still brand new and not wanting to completely destroy themselves before they get in the proper training. On a side note, as I said I'm still new, and I plan on going to the national jam. Obviously, Cat Fountain is on the to-do list, and, obviously, I'm going to be afraid, because I've never jammed there before AND I haven't included wet terrain in my training yet.
All in all, just think of the little guy when making remarks like 'I ain't afriad of no water' or 'you guys are being bitches'.
P.S. I know the 'bitches comment was out of jest, and I'm not complaining about that specfically, just the overall meaning of the message. Also, I hope this was elaborate enough.
I don't think you have been around me enough to know my opinions of "little guys" yet. I probably spend just as much time training my own techs at big jams as I do trying to help others who are less experienced than myself. With that said, I am still a "little guy" of my own in very many ways. I would never, ever, in my life, hate on someone for being less able than I am while making an effort to be more able than they currently are.
Saying "Cat Fountain will never be the way it was" is flat out ignoring my post. Like...blatantly. Cat fountain will be the exact same way it was for somewhere around 7-10 months out of the year. 2-5 months of losing a training spot (which will only be a loss within your first year of training) is not a big deal -- PLUS you will still have access to it dry as well...
