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« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2008, 05:06:00 PM »

true that its got some bad artificial flavoring that should be avioded but if u arnt worried bout that no cals or carbs is a better alternative to other stuff but then again theres always water
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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2008, 07:08:51 PM »

true that its got some bad artificial flavoring that should be avioded but if u arnt worried bout that no cals or carbs is a better alternative to other stuff but then again theres always water

Not necessarily.  Sometimes the lack of calories makes you more hungry, resulting in you consuming more food that DOES contain calories, according to several psychological AND physiological studies...

If the goal is weight loss, it may be counterproductive.
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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2008, 06:33:25 AM »

You see not too many people realize that sugaR is actually good for you, not too much sugar mind you but just the right amount. Many doctors encourage things such as a piece of chocolate a day, or soft drinks once in a while. The old age myth that sugar is an imflamitory towards the muscles is just false. I have an aunt who specialize in diets and fiber for people. So in the end sugar is not as bad as people say.
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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2008, 07:00:07 AM »

You see not too many people realize that sugaR is actually good for you, not too much sugar mind you but just the right amount. Many doctors encourage things such as a piece of chocolate a day, or soft drinks once in a while. The old age myth that sugar is an imflamitory towards the muscles is just false. I have an aunt who specialize in diets and fiber for people. So in the end sugar is not as bad as people say.
You are a brave man to make such a statement on this forum.  I would pull out your research tools now, because you had better be prepared to defend it from the onslaught of people who disagree with you  Grin
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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2008, 08:15:36 AM »

You are a brave man to make such a statement on this forum.  I would pull out your research tools now, because you had better be prepared to defend it from the onslaught of people who disagree with you  Grin

HA!  How true it is!

You see not too many people realize that sugaR is actually good for you, not too much sugar mind you but just the right amount. Many doctors encourage things such as a piece of chocolate a day, or soft drinks once in a while. The old age myth that sugar is an imflamitory towards the muscles is just false. I have an aunt who specialize in diets and fiber for people. So in the end sugar is not as bad as people say.

Carbohydrates, that is, sugars in all forms, are good for you.  In fact, you need them.  If you don't take in sugars, you will die.

Doctors who encourage chocolate usually recommend chocolate that is dark and high in cocoa.  This is because of the anti-oxidants found in cocoa.  Chocolates containing highly processed sugars, like those in Hershey's Syrup, however, are not as beneficial as the concentration of cocoa is much less (thus fewer antioxidants).

Soft Drinks being recommended by a doctor is ridiculous.  That's like a doctor recommending a big mac with cheese.  If my doctor would recommend that to me, i would ask his reasoning.  Most likely, it would result in me not going to that doctor anymore.

Sugar causing inflammation is not a myth.  Several studies prove the inflammatory effects of different foods on various tissues of the body.  This includes tissues in the gut and post-absorption, such as the muscles.  Sugars cause most of the inflammation associated with these responses.  You hearing that this is a myth from your aunt doesn't cut it for me.  If you have some studies with abstracts that you can link to, then please do so.  Else, I am dismissing this as hearsay.

Processed sugars are bad.  That is one of the few blanket statements I will stick to.....unless you can provide compelling evidence to the contrary.
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« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2008, 09:03:13 AM »

This is a supporting study for what I am talking about:

Dietary pattern, inflammation, and incidence of type 2 diabetes in women

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/82/3/675

A case study done on a large population of women.  The design seems sound, despite the limitations of case studies - but it is my opinion that case studies are the most comprehensive data there is to be had on nutrition and dieting.

If you can provide counter-examples, i would be willing to read them.
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« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2008, 06:00:47 PM »

You see not too many people realize that sugaR is actually good for you, not too much sugar mind you but just the right amount. Many doctors encourage things such as a piece of chocolate a day, or soft drinks once in a while. The old age myth that sugar is an imflamitory towards the muscles is just false. I have an aunt who specialize in diets and fiber for people. So in the end sugar is not as bad as people say.

Again, if you're going to make bold claims, back them up with some info. Hearsay... doesn't hold up.
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« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2008, 07:46:46 PM »

What's your guys' take on tea?
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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2008, 10:01:52 AM »

Take on what? Whether tea is good for you or not? or whether it's good for hydration? Not sure what you're getting at.

Regardless tea is pretty close to a miracle drink and incredibly easy to make, whether in prepackaged bags or home made. I'm  bored and don't feel like looking up a link but here's a little something on the benefits of tea.

-Lower blood pressure
-Possibility of lower incidence of heart disease
-Incidence of lower cholesterol
-Lowered risk of many different strands of cancer
-Incidence of lower risk of hypertension
-Incidence of lowered risk of Alzheimer's

There's plenty more, just go google it. I say "incidence" because there are many different studies showing only possibilities to cause these effects, so pay attention to who issued the research before believing anything. Regardless, we've been consuming tea for several thousand years. Hard to argue...
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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2008, 10:38:11 AM »

Take on what? Whether tea is good for you or not? or whether it's good for hydration? Not sure what you're getting at.

Regardless tea is pretty close to a miracle drink and incredibly easy to make, whether in prepackaged bags or home made. I'm  bored and don't feel like looking up a link but here's a little something on the benefits of tea.

-Lower blood pressure
-Possibility of lower incidence of heart disease
-Incidence of lower cholesterol
-Lowered risk of many different strands of cancer
-Incidence of lower risk of hypertension
-Incidence of lowered risk of Alzheimer's

There's plenty more, just go google it. I say "incidence" because there are many different studies showing only possibilities to cause these effects, so pay attention to who issued the research before believing anything. Regardless, we've been consuming tea for several thousand years. Hard to argue...

Uhm this all depends on the type of tea.

Black teas, not so much.

Green teas, yeah.
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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2008, 01:22:59 PM »

True, green and white teas. But black teas also have a good list of benefits.
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« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2008, 07:26:13 AM »

It's still made by a soda manufacturer and carries with it all the lies and scandals they bring.

originally vitamin water wasnt owned by coca cola. They bought em.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/25/business/NA-FIN-US-Coca-Cola-Glaceau.php
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« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2008, 11:09:31 AM »

Does that change my thoughts on the company and their advertising methods?

Not in the least

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« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2008, 11:22:41 AM »

Does that change my thoughts on the company and their advertising methods?

Not in the least


no I mean they didn't come up with the formulas. (though Im sure they changed it a bit)
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« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2008, 07:21:41 PM »

Regardless tea is pretty close to a miracle drink and incredibly easy to make, whether in prepackaged bags or home made.
It's also really cheap.
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