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« on: May 29, 2008, 05:44:40 PM » |
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Recently I have been getting into actually moving about the house with spider-walks, crab-walks, and upward dog qm. Just wondering if anyone is deep enough in their training to do this yet...
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 12:17:48 PM » |
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Nope, you must be the most dedicated hardcore traceur to ever exist.  is that not what you wanted to hear? |
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“You do freerunning or parkour, I don’t know, but both are the same. Some people are worried about it, but they are people that don’t train for too long, people that…in terms of training, aren’t mature yet. […] One day I’d like to wake up, open my window, and everyones doing parkour." -Ali Shelton
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Jaycee123
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 12:53:18 PM » |
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Not really bro just seeing if others were into training qm!!!  |
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2008, 01:15:08 PM » |
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Muhammad Howell
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2008, 01:34:32 PM » |
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The Columbus Ohio crew begin every training session by warming up with ten minutes of QM without stopping or getting up to take a break.
Ideally, you should be able to do at least 20 straight minutes of non-stop QM, forty meters forward and 40 meters backward, without standing up, in order to match the standards of many European traceurs who train regularly.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2008, 02:22:16 PM » |
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Just wondering if anyone is deep enough in their training to do this yet...
you make it seem as though doing qm around the house is essential training. i love quadrupedal movement and believe it to be a staple in my training, however, i don't do it around my house. so does this mean that i'm not "deep enough" into my training? all i'm saying is be careful how you word things, if i didn't know any better i could mistake you for being arrogant |
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David Glass
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 02:34:17 PM » |
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Holy crap! If I did a video like that, my mum would be all over the shoes lying around and what not LOL I need to get more into QM myself. I do it now and then, but hardly part of my daily training, I'm sorry to say |
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Jaycee123
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2008, 04:31:42 PM » |
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Just wondering if anyone is deep enough in their training to do this yet...
you make it seem as though doing qm around the house is essential training. i love quadrupedal movement and believe it to be a staple in my training, however, i don't do it around my house. so does this mean that i'm not "deep enough" into my training? all i'm saying is be careful how you word things, if i didn't know any better i could mistake you for being arrogant By saying "deep enough in training" I meant has the strive/ strength to walk on all fours in different methods. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2008, 05:01:00 PM » |
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muhammad - I'm a bit critical towards the standards you just set down. I believe that satisfaction halts progress and that you should push yourself and those you train with further and harder, always. Also, to be more specific in my objections, I do not think that 40 meters is a very adequate distance, I've seen people that have never qmed before able to do several times that.
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2008, 05:04:23 PM » |
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muhammad - I'm a bit critical towards the standards you just set down. I believe that satisfaction halts progress and that you should push yourself and those you train with further and harder, always. Also, to be more specific in my objections, I do not think that 40 meters is a very adequate distance, I've seen people that have never qmed before able to do several times that.
If I'm not mistaken he meant being able to do 40m forward 40m back, and repeat for 20 min. but I also agree that satisfaction halts progress, however the standard muhammad mentioned is extremely high, and for most a goal they can strive for for a while. |
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“You do freerunning or parkour, I don’t know, but both are the same. Some people are worried about it, but they are people that don’t train for too long, people that…in terms of training, aren’t mature yet. […] One day I’d like to wake up, open my window, and everyones doing parkour." -Ali Shelton
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2008, 05:28:25 PM » |
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that makes a bit more sense, but even that is not a very far distance in one direction. also, the method of training depends very much on what your goals are. how fast do you want to qm, how far, for how long, these are all goals and capacities that you can push.
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2008, 07:13:44 PM » |
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When you do QM with proper form and continuous movement without halting, it becomes very very challenging. Even ten minutes of continuous QM in good form can leave you suffering if you do it right. 20 minutes of unbroken QM in good form is quite a good goal to shoot for. If it becomes too easy, you simply increase the difficulty by adding in pushups, rolls, etc. By good form, I mean keeping your hips low to the ground in the standard bear-crawl form, or if you are doing the crab-walk style, then keep you hips up high so you body looks like a table or bench. The distance doesn't really matter, it's the length of time you sustain movement in good form.
I didn't create these standards John. These are just guidelines given to us by Parkour Generations when they were here recently.
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2008, 07:28:45 PM » |
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lol. qm is almost nothing to me. i wrestled for 3 years and we did qm uphill, downhill, on level ground, just nonstop for insane periods of time and then full out for short periods of time. we'd play games in qm and throw in wrestling to make them interesting. it was some crazy times. p.s. try doing some bear crawls as fast as possible in good form with someone on your back  |
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2008, 08:34:31 PM » |
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Hey Jon,
Yeh i have gotten in the habit of Bear Crawling and monkey Jogging throughout the house its a really good workout
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2008, 10:12:42 PM » |
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Distance and Speed both matter to me, I train to QM with and for precision, speed, and endurance among other capacities. I understand good form and adhere to it. I would extend that good form means keeping your back proper (shoulders in) and alternate your limbs correctly.
If time sustained is your goal, that's just fine.
It's also perhaps a necessary distinction to decide whether or not you are doing QM to improve your QM, it is certainly a tool you could use solely to better condition yourself. Personally I put a great deal of weight on it, I take it as a natural capacity that I feel most people are lacking and one that I would like to be far more adept at.
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2008, 03:16:08 PM » |
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Hey Jon,
Yeh i have gotten in the habit of Bear Crawling and monkey Jogging throughout the house its a really good workout
its real fun isnt it bro, I do hope it benefits my parkour substantually.  |
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Alëx Millz
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2008, 04:29:13 PM » |
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Hey Jon,
Yeh i have gotten in the habit of Bear Crawling and monkey Jogging throughout the house its a really good workout
its real fun isnt it bro, I do hope it benefits my parkour substantually. Yeh it should benefit it... I dont know about you guys but Ive always wanted to be an animal and this somehow defines my dreams in a small way. These QM's will work on your balance/upperbody strength. Ive always had problems with pull ups and I am using this as a way to work out those muscles. |
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2008, 04:47:55 PM » |
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Ah so this is key (in sort) to building strength and balance. Glad to hear that much. Yea animals are awesome to watch! I want to go to a local zoo and observe the animals in their natural enviornment and how adapted their movements are to it.
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Alëx Millz
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2008, 04:51:34 PM » |
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Thats a brilliant idea, Id suggest going to watch Chimps Or Orangutans if they aren't active fine the Lemurs You can learn a off lemurs!
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2008, 04:52:34 PM » |
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go watch the bunnies. they can really jump |
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